Diskussion:Gustav Haloun

Tschechisch oder österreichisch

Warum österreichischer? Alle Tschechen, Ungarn, einige Italiener und andere Nationen die von 1804 bis 1918 im Österreich-Ungarn geboren waren sind Österreicher? Er deklarierte sich als Österreicher? (16:48, 30. Mai 2012‎ WikiHannibal)

Ja! Staatsangehörigkeit, nicht Nationalität. (19:03, 30. Mai 2012‎ =)

"Staatsangehörigkeit" in the time of their birth? This is the policy of wiki in German? Then there is a lot to do - changing all those Czechs and others born between 1804 and 1918 in Austrio-Hungarian Empire to Austrians and those born between 1939-1945 in Protectorate to Germans. And what about Czechs in The Holy Roman Empire between 1034 and 1806? And others? The Swiss before 1648? Please explain how you decide their "Staatsangehörigkeit". (I write this in English beacuse you have an advanced level of English.) WikiHannibal (Diskussion) 23:03, 30. Mai 2012 (CEST)

Yes, there is a strong tendency to indicate the citizenship(s), not the nationality – not just the citizenship at the time of birth, but through all the life. The background is that nationalities are often ambiguous. Sometimes people tend to different nationalities during their lifes, sometimes nationalities are an attribution. Gustav Haloun's case is typical for these problems: Somebody writes here that he was a "Sudetendeutscher" but identified with the Czech. He was born in a mostly Czech provicial town in a multi-nationality environment. He seems to have studied and teached only at German-language universities (the question is at which of the two Prague universities he teached). So it's difficult to fix a nationality or ethnicity. This is the reason why we usually only categorize people by their citizenship. See also the explanation at Kategorie:Tscheche and that this category is a subcategory of Kategorie:Person nach Staatsangehörigkeit. --= (Diskussion) 02:56, 31. Mai 2012 (CEST)